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Postby ro1313 » 28 Jul 2010 07:49

From todays gazette

Heritage activists and some Plateau Mont Royal residents are seeing and hearing more of the Montreal Alouettes than they can stand.

Two heritage groups say the expansion blocks the view of Mount Royal, but the Alouettes say the addition was done exactly according to the approved plans.

The football team’s newly enlarged venue at McGill University’s Molson Stadium has drawn complaints about noise pollution after an announcer’s voice boomed for blocks around the stadium’s perch on Mount Royal during last Thursday’s regular-season home opener, thanks to a new sound system.

As well, Heritage Montreal and Les Amis de la Montagne are filing complaints with the caretakers of the mountain – the city and the Quebec Culture Department – that a new deck of seats added above a stand on the south side of the stadium obstructs the view of Mount Royal from Park Ave.

“It’s exactly what they (the team) promised wouldn’t happen,” Heritage Montreal policy director Dinu Bumbaru said yesterday.

The team agreed in 2007 to preserve views of the mountain as a condition to obtain the province and the city’s approval of a renovation plan that included adding 5,000 seats and a giant screen. The federal and provincial governments footed $19.3 million of the $29.3-million renovation tab, while the city kicked in $4 million. The club spent $6 million.

Heritage Montreal passed a resolution at its annual general meeting last month calling on the province and the city to explain “the

“I don’t know what plans they’re talking about,” said Claude Rochon, vicepresident of marketing and communications for the Alouettes.

“We did high-tech simulations with the government showing exactly the views from all around the stadium and we did it exactly according to plan.”

The Culture Department monitored the construction, permanent damage caused to the historical landscape of Mount Royal with their authorization and their financial contributions, as well as the corrective measures they envision.”
However, the team says the addition was built exactly as indicated in the architects’ and engineers’ plans, which were approved by the Culture Department, so it doesn’t understand the preservation groups’ complaint. he added.

The Heritage Montreal resolution also demands that any simulations submitted by developers for future projects that will affect the mountain be independently verified.

The department will examine the complaints about the obstructed view with the city and meet with all sides in the dispute, department spokesperson Annie LeGruiec said.

McGill offered no comment on the matter yesterday.

Meanwhile, residents are giving the Alouettes an earful after getting an earful from a new stadium sound system during last week’s home opener.

“It was a loud, booming male speaker voice,” said Park Ave. resident Virginia Nixon, who lives more than three blocks from the stadium.

“It’s like being at a carnival. It’s so loud.”

The Milton Park Citizens’ Committee says it’s aware of at least six letters to the team about the new sound system since last week.

The Alouettes’ Rochon said the team has experts working on the problem and will adjust the sound. It’s surprising, he said, because the new system is designed to direct sound within the stadium more efficiently than the old system and at the same time reduce the sound travelling outside.

Nixon warned she won’t be satisfied with “adjusting” the sound in the streets. “It’s ‘eliminating’ that should happen.”
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby ro1313 » 28 Jul 2010 07:52

Its the gazette online edition and you can post comments
One person commented

the activist wrote:The Molson stadium should be moved to Mirabel, along with Trudeau Airport, the Bell Centre and put in a rail line leading from the metro.


I replied

I wrote:Fine

At the same time move

The Tour De L'ille(day and night)

All parades

All St Jean activities

The Grand Prix

All outdoor Softball and Soccer games

All outdoor hockey rinks

The MSO had an outdoor concert yesterday...no more of that

The fireworks

The jazz fest and comedy fest



Each and everyone of these and many others make noise and inconvenience my life.



Lose them all!

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Re: The whinning has started

Postby Als4ever » 28 Jul 2010 09:57

Ah une poigné de résidents de Milton Park ne sont pas contents... So What! Ils n'habitent pas en campagne sur le bord d'un lac, ils habitent au CENTRE-VILLE DE MONTRÉAL Dans un quartier d'ÉTUDIANTS!

Il faut se rappeller que c'est juste une minorité de personnes. Ils avaient besoin de 191 signatures pour mettre les batons dans les roues des Als et forcer un référendum sur le dossier. Ils n'en n'ont eu que 81!
http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanada/a ... 55300.html

81 VS 25000 hummmm

Les chialeux ont même leur site web: http://drupal.comcitmp.org/

Des extraits:

I was very happy to find this website and read Peggy Curran’s 2008 article on the rude, crude behaviour of many McGill students living in the Milton Park area


Over the duration of their lease, these six men ignored all my attempts to put a damper on their rowdy partying and to instill in them some regard for the neighbours. They refused to heed my e-mails, the notices I posted in their hallway, and even my calls to some of their parents. Their reasoning was that this was a "student neighbourhood" and the neighbours should like it or lump it.


Looking for solutions: there were many suggestions. To name a few:

install permanent signs promoting quiet living 1) in the neighbourhood
2) in the students residences’ lobby

distribute leaflets to students promoting moderation in drinking and/or quiet living
install a permanent sign at McGill’s Milton-University exit saying « You are now entering a residential area»
institute street patrols
get the store owners involved
get the Alouettes involved, especially during Frosh week.
we question the fact that Molson sponsors Frosh week
communicate with students’ parents


Au lieu de te battre pour faire cesser toute sorte de bruit, déménage dans un coin qui est supposé être paysible! Quartier étudiant=party!
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby sectionu2 » 28 Jul 2010 14:34

C'est le syndrome du Parc Belmont et de l'aéroport Dorval, des gens achète a coté d'un aéroport (il spécule qu'il va être fermer vers Mirabel) ou achète a coté du parc Belmont/Aéroport Dorval, et vlan se plaigne du bruit... et le pire est que les journaliste leur donne une voix sans pondération. Ridicule.
Idem a Boucherville des gens achète prêt de la voie de chemin de fer, trop dangereux deplacer la ligne... WTF.
hmmm nothing like the smell of victory, to the grey cup, Prepare to be boarded you bilge rat!!
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby section k1 M.october » 28 Jul 2010 16:48

Je vais vous dire que ses des gros chialeux et des vieux frustrés qui on rien n’a faire de se qui se passe en 2010 au centre-ville de Montréal. J’ai vu ses personnes quand il a eu l’audience et je les est regarde et dit le fond de ma panse croyer moi il aime pas les alouettes ils vont tous faire et trouver pour chialer contre eu il va falloir trouve une façon de leur sourire a belle dent après les parties et leur dire aller donc ………….
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby Trestman@Godsright » 28 Jul 2010 18:33

Je suis tellement tanné des poilus du plateau qui pensent que le monde tourne juste pour eux...pu capable de leurs caprices.

Dinu Bumbaru est un empêcheur de tourner en rond protéger 4 verges de gazon et un vieux mur de brique est assez pour arrêter chaque projet immobilier....

Quand le monde du Plateau nous gosse avec leur os...t de tam tam on dit rien... pis venez pas me dire que 3 hrs une fois par semaine c'est assez pour te faire hair la vie...

Pour ma part je vais m'acheter un porte voix ou une patente pour faire ENCORE plus de bruit... ;)
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby hfxtc » 29 Jul 2010 07:07

C'est une bonne chose que le stade soit deja batis.

SI je me souviens bien pour qu'une plainte de bruit soit conisder a Montreal ca prend un minimum de 90 decibels a l'endroit de la plainte. J'ai des gros, gros doutes que les hauts parleurs du stade Pericival Molson soit capables de projeter 90 decibels a des distances telles.

C'est comme ca partout de toute facons. Il y a toujours un trou du culs qui veux s'approprier plus de droits qu'il en a. Voyons donc si un individu peux faire eteindre les lumieres ou dire a une universite quoi batir sur leur terrains parce que ca change le decor. IL y aurait rien qui se batit dans aucune ville. On a le meme probleme a Halifax avec le bord de l'eau.
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby ro1313 » 29 Jul 2010 07:23

I was surprised to read about the so called 90 decibels.

I thought the sound was much lower this year compared to other years....mind you I am sitting in a different place
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby Als4ever » 29 Jul 2010 09:38

ro1313 wrote:
I thought the sound was much lower this year compared to other years....mind you I am sitting in a different place


I thought the same thing, and I have the same tickets than last year. The Marie-Mai show sounded definitly lower than comparable halftime show in the past.
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby AnthonyC13 » 29 Jul 2010 10:53

C'est tout simplement décalissant! J'amène mon bearhorn à la game de jeudi... et je garde tout le gaz pour dans les rues après la partie. :smile:
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby reppact » 31 Jul 2010 01:05

The Gazette had a reporter go out with e decible meter during the Argos game:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/soundsli ... id=3342762

Surprise, nowhere near 90 dB
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby Als4ever » 31 Jul 2010 06:46

reppact wrote:The Gazette had a reporter go out with e decible meter during the Argos game:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/soundsli ... id=3342762

Surprise, nowhere near 90 dB


Nice job The Gazette loll!!!!
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby benoit jean » 31 Jul 2010 12:00

Als4ever wrote:
ro1313 wrote:
I thought the sound was much lower this year compared to other years....mind you I am sitting in a different place


I thought the same thing, and I have the same tickets than last year. The Marie-Mai show sounded definitly lower than comparable halftime show in the past.



mais ça c'était une bonne chose que le son soit pas fort pendant le spectacle de marie mwoé heuuuuuu marie-mai, non ?
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby Als4ever » 01 Aug 2010 12:08

benoit jean wrote:
Als4ever wrote:
ro1313 wrote:
I thought the sound was much lower this year compared to other years....mind you I am sitting in a different place


I thought the same thing, and I have the same tickets than last year. The Marie-Mai show sounded definitly lower than comparable halftime show in the past.



mais ça c'était une bonne chose que le son soit pas fort pendant le spectacle de marie mwoé heuuuuuu marie-mai, non ?


:lmao:

Le niveau sonore adéquat aurait été "mute" mais ça, c'est un autre débat... ;-)
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby sectionu2 » 01 Aug 2010 19:09

Bring back the bungee cord contest :-)
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby XGamer » 01 Aug 2010 21:45

Speaking of stupid contest, have you noticed (i wasn't at last game but at Home opener),

No Patrouille Molson EX
No Pizza Pizza Box Run
No Run for Demenagement Something run...

Is it me or less stupid contest....

Even Als weren't wearing the Molson Ex "advertisement" patch on the left side of the shirt....only the Rona patch on the right side of the shirt....
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Re: The whinning has started

Postby benoit jean » 01 Aug 2010 22:35

XGamer wrote:Speaking of stupid contest, have you noticed (i wasn't at last game but at Home opener),

No Patrouille Molson EX
No Pizza Pizza Box Run
No Run for Demenagement Something run...

Is it me or less stupid contest....

Even Als weren't wearing the Molson Ex "advertisement" patch on the left side of the shirt....only the Rona patch on the right side of the shirt....


et pas de trouves le coffre rona et gagne le ca$h ....tsé le concours que j'tavais fait faire parceque j'avais téléphoné à blondin , devant geff :D lolll
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